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It's often said that the treasures of the Vatican should be sold and the money given to the poor. [Hammond] The poor are already own them. The Vatican is the defender of the faith and therefore the defender of the poor. The Vatican's vast wealth is a weapon wielded against tyranny and oppression by millions, indeed billions of impoverished followers of the Catholic faith. Your view of religion and history appears to be rather banal. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
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(Geopelia) But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come back? [Hammond] First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel it through a better body. But don't for a moment underestimate how different this world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. spiritual body ) had a zero growth deficit. Words like; splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to describe the experience of eternal life which as you recall is a bodily condition not a time duration . As far as coming back to this world I have no doubt that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably be making many sorties back to the world you knew. In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the first place my research indicates that it is somewhere between the ordinary reality that we are all familiar with, and a dream meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out of pure heaven (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a crude caricature of what this experience must be like. I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this earthly reality through the eyes of flat subjective space-time a.k.a. seeing reality through the eyes of God through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the neuronal system goes flat line . In the case of an atomic bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. There may be fades and zooms and cuts and dissolves (to use cinematic jargon) in which a life review is experienced. There may even be a purgatorial phase. This is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of priorities always with the view that it could end at any moment because of the earthly condition of the brain cytoskeleton after death. At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the corpse in the first microsecond after death you would continue on in heaven basically in a condition of splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. which is probably in the ballpark for the average run-of-the-mill human death. Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. (Geopelia) That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. [Hammond] Says who; you? The first step is to prove it's possible . Science has just done that. Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early days in Rome? [Hammond] So was Democracy. Now it's the law of the land. What's your point? This could be considered the same sort of thing, couldn't it? Something for the poor and downtrodden to hope for after death? [Hammond] Obviously. What's your point? (Geopelia) I suppose, that those who have had a raw deal in this world can hope for something better after death. Teach them that, and they may be more contented with their lot and not cause trouble for their superiors. [Hammond] Banalities and trite _meta_phors such as that belong in Sunday school class jfor children, not in an advanced scholarly discussion requiring an in depth knowlege of Religion, History and Science. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
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One must ask - if Hammond is all you say he is, why are you so preoccupied with him? Hah! Well, I have to say that I'm not preoccupied with him, or with his fellow travelers. At times, I find his ilk amusing, and I play along a bit, but mostly I ignore them. I'm much more likely to read and post when someone I respect seems to be interacting with one of them. My complaint about Usenet is that, given the choice between kook and normal, most posters, however bright and knowledgeable, will respond to the kook. That is why I challenged you about responding to Hammond. You cannot make an unreasonable person reasonable by reasoning with him. rec.org.mensa has seriously deteriorated over the years; so have other NGs. There was a time when substantial discussions took place. Not often, but often enough to make place worth visiting. By slow degrees the kooks took over, causing the better contributors to disappear one- by-one. And here we are.
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(Geopelia) But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come back? [Hammond] First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel it through a better body. But don't for a moment underestimate how different this world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. spiritual body ) had a zero growth deficit. Words like; splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to describe the experience of eternal life which as you recall is a bodily condition not a time duration . As far as coming back to this world I have no doubt that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably be making many sorties back to the world you knew. In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the first place my research indicates that it is somewhere between the ordinary reality that we are all familiar with, and a dream meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out of pure heaven (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a crude caricature of what this experience must be like. I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this earthly reality through the eyes of flat subjective space-time a.k.a. seeing reality through the eyes of God through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the neuronal system goes flat line . In the case of an atomic bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. There may be fades and zooms and cuts and dissolves (to use cinematic jargon) in which a life review is experienced. There may even be a purgatorial phase. This is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of priorities always with the view that it could end at any moment because of the earthly condition of the brain cytoskeleton after death. At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the corpse in the first microsecond after death you would continue on in heaven basically in a condition of splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. which is probably in the ballpark for the average run-of-the-mill human death. Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. (Geopelia) That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. [Hammond] Says who; you? The first step is to prove it's possible . Science has just done that. Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early days in Rome? [Hammond] So was Democracy. Now it's the law of the land. What's your point? This could be considered the same sort of thing, couldn't it? Something for the poor and downtrodden to hope for after death? [Hammond] Obviously. What's your point? (Geopelia) I suppose, that those who have had a raw deal in this world can hope for something better after death. Teach them that, and they may be more contented with their lot and not cause trouble for their superiors. [Hammond] Banalities and trite _meta_phors such as that belong in Sunday school class jfor children, not in an advanced scholarly discussion requiring an in depth knowlege of Religion, History and Science. I'm just an ignorant agnostic who asks silly questions, and I don't claim to be anything else. But sometimes out of the mouths of babes and sucklings..........
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It's often said that the treasures of the Vatican should be sold and the money given to the poor. [Hammond] The poor are already own them. The Vatican is the defender of the faith and therefore the defender of the poor. The Vatican's vast wealth is a weapon wielded against tyranny and oppression by millions, indeed billions. of impoverished followers of the Catholic faith. Your view of religious history appears to be rather banal. (Geopelia) Very likely. I was brought up Church of England back in the thirties. Good old King James Version and the Book of Common Prayer. But I often refer to the Catholic Encyclopaedia for their official view.
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[Occidental] This then, is the beginning of the connection of Psychology to Relativity. ) But, since General Relativity posits a fourth dimension, a corresponding 4th personality dimension must exist in the human mind, i.e. God. Or something like that. [Hammond] You are an ignorant schumck! The fourth dimension is TIME, not God you jerk. In psychometry, time correlates with Intelligence because intelligence is measured in mental speed (bits/second). Bits/sec correlates directly with time! Therefore, we may extend our jingle to the fourth dimension for your rote memorization: X-Y-Z-T CAUSES E-N-P-g ......... see, it still rhymes! (Note: Professionals refer to Intelligence as psychometric-g You really are shitbag doofus! [Hammond] Finally, you shitbag doofus, God is discovered by factoring the 4x4 correlation matrix of ENPg to the next higher order, which results in a SOLITARY, FINAL, EIGENVECTOR whose physical causation is identified as the Secular Trend human growth. This final and ultimate eigenvector of ALL of Psychology including Personality and Intelligence is in fact the GOD of the Bible, which is easily demonstrated to even a casual observer to physically explain every known attribute of God, every known miracle in the Bible, and every known physical phenomenon associated with God. Now, I'm only going to say that once shithead, to demonstrate what a complete moron and incompetent big mouth you are. And don't ever forget it. every time you make some slower or slander about me I'll kick your skinny ass all over USENET and since I'm using voice dictation at 120 words per minute I don't have to lift a finger to do it. one more insult from you and the only thing you'll see from me is < SNIP HECKLER, you aggravated wannabe scumbag! ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
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